I keep a handful of museum subscriptions on my Reader most of which are only sporadically updated, something that Tyler Green at MAN has regularly and rightly kvetched about. And MOCA rarely updates it's podcast, but lately they've loaded a few really nice podcast to coincide with their current exhibitions, a handful wth with Lawrence Weiner, recently here in Milan for a show at Massimo de Carlo with ponytail, beard, tattoos, and attitude looks like the coolest motherfucker in the world.

The other podcasts that I'm downright delighted with is a conversation between Allan Kaprow and Paul McCarthy, who started out as teacher and student, but kept a dialogue going for forty years. In the above photo, they sort of look like good and evil pictures of one another. Kaprow in his blue jeans and trimmed beard looks the light-hearted post-60s conceptual guru which in some ways he is (if guru is not quite the right word, it's the closest thing I have in my arsenal to describe his attitudes and influence) and McCarthy, the man in black, his beard longer and more unkempt, but no less jolly in his grin than Kaprow, not far from the butt plug Santa he was hawing not long ago at Michelle Maccarone. Both of them radically affected younger artists both in their practice s artists and as teachers, I never really thought as one in a historical continuation of the other, I usually connect McCarthy to the Viennese Actionists, but this conversation shows the differences and connections between the two artists in a perfectly pointed way.

Some future art history dissertation or exhibtion to be sure. Either way enjoy.

A raft of Lawrence Weiner tracks and the McCarthy/Kaprow conversation here.